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 Post subject: Re: Parli resolutions
PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 3:22 pm 
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Rnd 4: TH would ensure that "100% fruit juice" actually means 100% fruit juice

That... sounds... uh... interesting? I can see the argument already: "100% fruit juice = 100% fruit juice. Yeah... it actually means itself already. A = A guys."


;)

Yeah. A whole round on truth in advertising. Blech. We were neg, it was our break round, and we lost. Granted, with a res like that try to prep anything decent as neg.


... that's why you always choose opp for outrounds when the rez's start getting goofy. You can win on interp 99% of the time.

Prepping decent neg on this comes at the interp from both angles.

I. Gov Duty to Frame the Debate
A. Standard: Aff must frame a debateable debate
1) It's the nature of parli. Resolutions aren't perfect, it's the case itself that must create the debate. I've seen prostitution being legalized be run as an Eastern medicine and the judge being ok with it. You can defend your interpretation.

2) Don't be afraid if you gave ground. If you turn a tautology into a non-tautology, opp can't claim you did anything but give them ground. "Hey, they kept me from running my DAs on A = A" will never be said.

3) It provides value to parli. blah blah.

B. Violation: Aff's interpretation of the round is tautological. They don't provide a subjective question with arguments on both sides.

C. Impact: Um. No debate. This is stupid. A priori the aff literally cannot be questioned.


II. "Actual Meaning" requires objective evaluator. It's the highest standard of solvency possible.
A. Rez states "actually means" and repeats a phrase twice. This indicates some higher form of validation.

B. "Actually Means" requires absolute truth. You must ABSOLUTELY buy their solvency. Usually you do a decision because it'll likely work (i.e. "if we buy food for poor people, they will not go hungry tonight"). But you would do almost nothing if you had to know beforehand with certainty that it "actually means" people wouldn't go hungry tonight.

C. (Solvency perspective) Gov doesn't "ensure" "actually means" through their plan.
- Topicality impacts
- Can't even justify the resolution because it doesn't "actually mean," it just "probably means"

D. (Philosophical perspective) Without being supernatural, no absolute validation is possible. Since Gov doesn't pick God as "this house", this house can never know the truth of the rez.

Then you debate whatever case they bring up.

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 Post subject: Re: Parli resolutions
PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 3:19 am 
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Yeah, that would probably work most of the time. And most of the time I would run something like that. Sadly, on the regional circuit, almost no judge will ever vote on an argument like that. We've tried it many times.

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 Post subject: Re: Parli resolutions
PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 4:55 am 
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Hey is it true there's a "Professional" division in IPDA where anyone (::cough::) debates -- including professors and stuff?

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 Post subject: Re: Parli resolutions
PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 1:00 am 
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Isaiah wrote:
Hey is it true there's a "Professional" division in IPDA where anyone (::cough::) debates -- including professors and stuff?

I've never heard of it, but every IPDA "tournament" around here has about 7 people in it. THe only really big IPDA tournament I've been to Pi Kappa Delta nationals, where they had novice, JV, varsity, but no "professional"

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 Post subject: Re: Parli resolutions
PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 6:23 pm 
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Rnd 1 and 2: Resolved: The USFG should immediately move forward with construction on the Keystone XL Pipeline.
Rnd 3: TH believes that a private safety net is more beneficial than a government safety net
Rnd 4: On balance, the people of the United States are benefited from media scrutiny of the personal lives of presidential candidate
Rnd 5: The USFG should pass an alternative to SOPA (won that as neg on an E-spec. What now)
Rnd 6: The USFG should make space exploration a higher priority (we ran get to Mars by 2015)
Quarters: TH would wag its finger in the face of President Obama
Semis: The USFG should protect the right to vote

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 Post subject: Re: Parli resolutions
PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 7:36 pm 
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am I missing something with the semis rez?

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 Post subject: Re: Parli resolutions
PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 10:29 pm 
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It varies from region to region; there are definitely IPDA tournaments that offer the professional division. The Linfield College tournament last October had professional, although there were only six entries. Novice, junior and open all made with entries in the double-digits. On the Gulf Coast, IPDA tournaments can be quite large; at IPDA Nationals last year, the professional division had 47 entries and broke to octos. And yes, anyone can enter, including professors.


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 Post subject: Re: Parli resolutions
PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 12:05 am 
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Isaiah wrote:
am I missing something with the semis rez?

Nope. It might have been would instead of should, but that's it.

Here's how the round went down:
We were aff, and my partner and I both do LD, so we ran our LD case to sell F-16s to Taiwan, saying that they protect the liberal democracy of Taiwan from invasion by the PRC. We weighed impacts both through the right to vote and net benefits (death, destruction, all that).

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 Post subject: Re: Parli resolutions
PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 12:16 am 
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Missouri State resolutions:

Rnd 1: The USFG should emancipate the United States Postal Service
Rnd 2: The USFG should intervene in Syria
Rnd 3: The Federal government should remove education from its roster
Rnd 4: TH believes targeted assassination does more harm than good
Quarters. TH believes Lincoln would have approved of the MDAA*
Semis: TH believes that, if Lincoln were alive today, he's be unelectable

*There was a typo in this resolution. It was supposed to be NDAA, which makes a lot more sense, but someone typed M instead of N. The tournament director confirmed that afterward. But everyone debated MDAA, which happens to be the Missile Defense Advocacy Alliance.

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 Post subject: Re: Parli resolutions
PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 12:25 am 
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THBT Congress requires institutional reform to remain relevant
THBT NATO should intervene in Syria
THBT when choosing a candidate, social policy should be more highly valued than economic policy
TH would drop the euro
TH would shorten the presidential primary season
THBT popular protests are an overrated form of seeking social and political change
Semis: THBT Arab democracies should ban religious parties from participating in the political process
Finals: THBT underpopulation in the West is a bigger threat than overpopulation in the East

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 Post subject: Re: Parli resolutions
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Bowling Green:
Rnd 1: The USFG should contain the outbreak
Rnd 2: TH believes what is dead should stay dead
Rnd 3: The zombies are coming!
Rnd 4: The USFG should nut up or shut up*
Semis: TH should join the zombie fleet
Finals: TH believes bloodshed would be good

*We ran a PIC. It was shady. And glorious.

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 Post subject: Re: Parli resolutions
PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 4:01 pm 
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Hoping that by the end of it all you were quoting awesome zombie zingers from movies and using competing zombie theories to argue topicality. That actually sounds like an awesome tournament.

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 Post subject: Re: Parli resolutions
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Isaiah wrote:
Hoping that by the end of it all you were quoting awesome zombie zingers from movies and using competing zombie theories to argue topicality.

No, but we did use the storyline of Zombieland to argue our time-delay plan-inclusive counterplan (CP text: The USFG, through an act of Congress signed by the President will do the affirmative plan in one year) was non-topical. We said that "nutting up or shutting up," within the context of Zombieland is an action that has to take place immediately. Therefore, by delaying plan implementation we're non-topical.

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Oh, and we said in the semis under res analysis that "the zombie fleet" is a chaotic hoard of entities that answers to no authority and pursues their own desires. So the USFG should embrace the chaos of the free market.

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 Post subject: Re: Parli resolutions
PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 2:30 pm 
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Love semis interp!

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 Post subject: Re: Parli resolutions
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Isaiah wrote:
That actually sounds like an awesome tournament.


It wasn't.

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 Post subject: Re: Parli resolutions
PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 6:57 am 
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baseballdebater wrote:
Isaiah wrote:
That actually sounds like an awesome tournament.


It wasn't.

Which dude from Grove City are you? I probably faced you at some point...

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 Post subject: Re: Parli resolutions
PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 3:55 pm 
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That's Dan Pugh. One of the best debaters Virginia ever had.

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 Post subject: Re: Parli resolutions
PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 6:06 pm 
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Isaiah wrote:
That's Dan Pugh. One of the best debaters Virginia ever had.

I never remember names, especially when we faced Grove City four times over the weekend...I would need a pic or something...

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 Post subject: Re: Parli resolutions
PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 6:13 am 
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Yeah, we hit you in finals. We hit Hillsdale four times as well.

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 Post subject: Re: Parli resolutions
PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 5:29 am 
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Ah. You guys were the finals team. I'm sorry about the PIC in round 4...I literally didn't know what else to do...I felt horrible/shady about that...

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