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PostPosted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 11:07 pm 
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particularly on aff, if i have multiple responses to an argument, which order do you think is best to introduce them? should i lead with the strongest response and work down to the weakest, or start with the weakest and conclude with the strongest?

note: i know that the job of the 2(A/N)R should be to make it clear what the key response is. i was just wondering which order would create the most persuasive immediate impact.

another note: i also know that you should never run "weak" responses. but even if you have 3 very good responses, one of them is going to be the weakest (relative to the others).

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 11:27 pm 
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Start strong, weak in the middle, finish strong again. Unless there is a logical flow to responses.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 11:29 pm 
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I would run the strongest first followed by the other two. That way, the judge is quickly convinced, and then given a couple of backup points to remove any lingering doubts. Additionally, if you realize midway through your first response that you're going to be short on time, you can drop the weakest point without disrupting the flow of your speech.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 11:40 pm 
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I typically do it like this: IF I've got two roughly equivalent responses, always lead with strongest. Aim for, however, varietals in types of responses. e.g.

1) Doesn't Negate Rez.
2) Warrants Flawed.
3) Counterwarrants (my evd).

In that case, I'd say think of an argument like a number line: -1 -- 0 -- +1

It's best to move from -1 to 0 before going for +1 b/c you've removed the doubt. That's why it makes sense usually to do some case mitigation before the DAs.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 12:26 am 
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Yeah, unless there's a logical flow or you can do what Isaiah suggested, the typical order is to put your strongest first, second strongest last, and the middle in descending order. So if you have 5 points, you'd order it 1,3, 4, 5, 2. Then if you find you're short on time during 3, you can just pass over 4 and 5 and get to the end.

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